The comedian, columnist on the Nagui show The original band on France Inter from Monday to Friday, will be this Saturday, September 25 on the Ombrière stage, in Uzès, to play his show “Tanguy Pastureau is not famous”.
The perfect opportunity to ask him a few questions full of second degree to obtain answers full of first degree, even third, we get lost a little, but also to talk about celebrity, Brigitte Macron, “Jean-Pierre Belmondo” and , we always come back to the Gard.
Objectif Gard: Your show is called “Tanguy Pastureau is not famous”… It’s less and less true, isn’t it?
Tanguy Pastureau : I don’t actually know, I think I’m kind of in that kind of gray area of stardom. The people who listen to me on France Inter, who have seen me on TV in two or three shows know me, but for the general public I can walk in the street and nothing happens to me, I am very little recognized. I find that today most celebrities are like that, for example you have some YouTubers who are very well known to young people, but if I walk past them I do not recognize them either, whereas at Fnac when they are going to sign it. there is an exceptional queue. I think there used to be celebrities that everyone recognized, now it’s more of a niche thing, so personally I would say I’m moderately famous, but that’s fine with me.
Why should we avoid being famous?
I start from the principle that when we are hidden we are still more or less happy, because celebrity also brings a lot of discomfort and worries. In my show I retrace the journey of a lot of celebrities. It starts from Brigitte Macron, I say that in fact she should benefit from a teacher’s retirement at the age she is, quiet listening to Vincent Delerm at home, the curse of the Kennedys for example where they all died in excruciating circumstances… I review celebrities saying their life is hell. So my credo is to advise people throughout the show to remain as anonymous as possible and besides, I give them advice to do so.
Precisely, some tips? The mask, currently that can help, or if we do an article about you, have the photo of another to illustrate it?
Exactly ! It happened to me with L’Obs, three years ago, it was my first national portrait, I was happy, I called my parents to tell them. And I don’t know what happened, a problem with the image bank, but they put the photo of someone else, of another radio host who barely looks like me (Grégory Ascher, editor’s note) and I found that it defined the level of fame in which I was. In fact we can put just about anyone’s photo, Mimie Mathy, a fish, I don’t know, everything goes. It made me laugh, and that’s where the idea for this show came from. It was funny in absolute terms, I didn’t feel hurt.
“My memories of the Gard are almost sensational”
You should have inaugurated l’Ombrière in Uzès last December, because of the health crisis it did not happen and you are finally among the first to perform there, but not the first. Isn’t that too disappointing?
So very. It’s very disappointing because you don’t always have the opportunity to leave your mark on the history of a room and I was happy to open this room. Afterwards I think that the first ones have opened the hall, there may have been small technical constraints, small things, I think that I will go to a hall already broken in so in a sense there is an advantage as well. But it’s a little disappointment anyway, it made me happy to be the first on stage in this new room.
You get a lot of inspiration from current events for your columns on France Inter. In this context, has the Gard already inspired you, and a corollary question, what do you know about our department?
Often I take the local press but I no longer remember through all these columns whether there was a news item or something really typical of the Gard that caught my attention. I knew the Gard when I was little, my parents were quite in love with the region. I remember Uzès but I was very small and I haven’t been back for a very long time. I think my memories are almost feeling. I’m happy to be back, plus in September, it’s still a bit of summer so I’m going to rediscover some of those feelings there.
Your job is to make people laugh with the news every day, isn’t that too difficult? The news is still very heavy lately.
Yes, and you have to try to get around this heaviness and manage to make it something a little funny, funny, light, sometimes less. As I have a daily column sometimes I allow myself more serious moments and the next day I go on something lighter, so it’s not a real problem. After that it’s true that we went through a very complicated period so I did like everyone else, try to move forward to get the funniest part of it all. But it’s not always easy.
“I do not have the impression of a particular censorship or of a more cautious time”
You who are a specialist: what is the funniest news of 2021 so far?
I would tend to say the start of the election campaign, there are so many candidates that it becomes a bit absurd. These primaries where there are almost more people running than voters. After that I don’t know if it’s funny, really. I think the climate will be quite tense in this campaign and that it will not be that funny in the end. But for now that’s what I remember from the start of the season, because everything else is a bit disastrous, between the climate crisis, the covid that goes on forever, we have trouble finding things that are a little funny. But in the countryside, sometimes there are sentences, I remember Sandrine Rousseau of the ecologists who wanted to pay tribute to Bébel and who said “Thank you Jean-Pierre Belmondo” on Twitter. This kind of stuff seems anecdotal, but we’re in such a tough and anxiety-provoking time that the slightest funny thing makes us laugh, I don’t know if it’s out of spite or if it’s really funny in fact. After that, there are always fabulous regional daily press titles …
One last question to choose from: “do you think, like some people, that Coluche and Desproges would be in prison today?” Or the second, “Can we laugh at everything? “
The two correspond somewhat to the same question. I don’t think they would be in jail, but they would say it differently. It is not necessarily worse, each era has its taboos, its way of saying things. Obviously we no longer say things in the same way in our time as in Coluche’s, Desproges today would be more feasible because he used certain strings less. I think it’s more of a writing job. We can almost say anything, if we are sound in his words, I allow myself almost everything on France Inter, I don’t feel like I’m restricting myself very much, but since people know me a little bit there is no ambiguity actually. I think that where there can be a problem is if the person is ambiguous in their speech, that we start to wonder if they believe what they are saying. I don’t have the impression of a particular censorship or of a more cautious era, you just have to say things differently and realize that with social networks, people who are being made fun of have access to speech , they can also answer us. In a way, all the better, generally it does not go badly.
Interview by Thierry Allard